Many people know LivingVertical through my writing and photos. It’s no secret that I am the face of this mission, but there’s a lot more to it than that. In this episode of the diabeticast, I actually interview Stefanie and get her thoughts on what it felt like to embark on a seemingly Quixotic quest–in a supporting role that asked a lot and often gave little in return. There’s no question in my mind that this entire effort took a huge personal toll on us–as individuals and the relationship we shared–and that didn’t really make it into the film, although many people who are intuitive enough to know have asked privately about the impact it had.


This interview was the first time we really sat down and retraced the project and how we experienced it differently and similarly in varying cases. It’s not a stretch to say that if it were not for Stefanie there would be no LivingVertical. While you recover from the horror of that thought, let me tell you that this is a two part episode and I am hoping to crank the second one out soon because we are once again heading out west (Utah, Nevada, Arizona and Southern California) to embark on a new project together.

If you’ve watched the Project365 documentary already you know that my final statement about the year I spent climbing was that it was a good start. I still think that’s the case. There is a lot more to come and we are excited to be getting back on the road and into the vertical world again!

Please consider purchasing a photo print (they are professional grade and really beautiful!) from one of the LivingVertical expeditions–ALL the money from prints we sell go to promoting the Project365 documentary so it reaches a wider audience–and you get an amazing photo that is a visual reminder of where our diabetes can take us!

Music provided by: Ken Hamm